tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post4094168711022573105..comments2024-03-25T10:18:39.673-07:00Comments on Etz B'ney Yosef: It Is Not Polygamy – It Is PolygynyEphrimonahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15771591803197135131noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-78701311867111217452020-12-02T20:21:34.950-08:002020-12-02T20:21:34.950-08:00Thank you so much for this much needed article. I...Thank you so much for this much needed article. It is well written!!Dan Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16128441823167451650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-22204813026322414662020-10-27T09:38:36.003-07:002020-10-27T09:38:36.003-07:00YHVH doesn't call polygamy "sin", bu...YHVH doesn't call polygamy "sin", but He does call "lust" sin. In addition, for those living in most western nations - the law forbids polygamy/bigamy. A person who professes to be Torah observant and who doesn't keep or honor the laws of the nation they live in, is not exactly walking in the paths prescribed by the Torah.Ephrimonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15771591803197135131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-55063073600259322842020-10-27T05:08:52.699-07:002020-10-27T05:08:52.699-07:00Since he calls polygyny "adultery", does...Since he calls polygyny "adultery", does the author of the post believe that polygyny is a damning sin, equal to murder?Patrick, Ṣạraph.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09262143739105757335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-24198836186122012472020-10-26T16:33:24.164-07:002020-10-26T16:33:24.164-07:00I agree.
After a good many years researching this...I agree.<br /><br />After a good many years researching this topic, I can comfortably conclude that while it isn't technically a "sin," polygyny also isn't God's ideal practice, for all the reasons you listed. In today's world, I can think of very few scenarios in which it really makes a tangible solution.Milo the Beanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17189152731302980799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-45021668312259889352020-09-28T06:32:54.830-07:002020-09-28T06:32:54.830-07:00Thank you all for your notes, but especially to th...Thank you all for your notes, but especially to the "brother" who added his excellent comments or I should say commentary.<br />Ephrimonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15771591803197135131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-79572324229501189512020-09-28T04:45:14.950-07:002020-09-28T04:45:14.950-07:007) Beside all the warning examples of polygyny in ...7) Beside all the warning examples of polygyny in scripture it is further interesting to note that the first polygyny of mankind appears in the cursed line of Cain. While the seventh from Adam in the obedient line, Enoch walked with Elohim, the seventh in the cursed line, Lamech chose to become a murderer and take two wives. The one followed life, the other death. The one lineage (seed) was saved through the flood, the other ended with it. And as the article states, the restored creation started again with couples of one husband and one wife. And not only for mankind, but also for all the animals, who were saved in pairs!<br /><br><br />As husbands, let us not allow the enemy to harm the miracle of Elohim, who made each of us one with his wife. Rather, let each one of us work with more heart to love his wive as Messiah His conregation.<br />a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-58376628180378222572020-09-28T04:30:49.413-07:002020-09-28T04:30:49.413-07:006) Now, the unity between Proton and Electron even...6) Now, the unity between Proton and Electron even goes deeper. The closer Proton and Electron come together, the stronger is the attracting force between them. When one Proton and one Electron come extremely close to each other, the force will be extremly strong and they will combine to form a new particle, the Neutron. The Neutron is no longer electrically charged - as a unity, all opposites in charge are eliminated. As Elohim separated the first Adam into two human beings, man & woman, also the human characteristics are being divided on two humans of opposite kind, being attracted to each other by their complementing differences. As they become one, they form the complete human being, no longer individually incomplete but a complementing unity.<br />Back to the matter of the elementary particles our bodies consist of: This unity only works between <b>one</b> Proton and exactly <b>one</b> Electron, not two.<br />a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-51191683909506853162020-09-28T04:29:25.713-07:002020-09-28T04:29:25.713-07:005) The fundamental concept of “two united” we not ...5) The fundamental concept of “two united” we not only find in our physiology, but even revealed to the lowest level, in the very matter, Elohim formed our bodies out of. Proton and Electron (the basic particles forming the atoms) are electrically charged particles – of opposite charge. As these opposites attract, <b>one</b> Electron and <b>one</b> Proton will form a stable union, the Hydrogen atom. The Proton being the heavy center, around which the Electron oscillates. Both are attracted and kept stably together by their opposite charge. <br />Now, it is true that you can temporarily form a weakly stable Hydride atom, in which two Electrons oscillate around one Proton - but it will strongly react with its environment and its structure will quickly fall apart. And as long as it exists, both Electrons will indeed try to come as close as they can to the Proton, but stay as far as they can apart from each other. <br />a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-90532882140314305202020-09-28T04:27:35.664-07:002020-09-28T04:27:35.664-07:004) Our Masters last prayers for us were to “become...4) Our Masters last prayers for us were to <b>“become one”</b>. In the context of Marriage between husband and wife, this starts with “becoming one flesh”. Our own physiology, the way we were created, already shows that we are meant to be <b>one</b> husband and <b>one</b> wife. The first time husband and wife come together, the hymen breaks and the blood is shed and both become literally one flesh, one human organism. Now being one, every consecutive time they come together is like a memorial of this blood covenant. <br /><b>There is no physiological way a normal man can be physically one with more than one wife, simultaneously.</b><br />Complete physiological unity in marriage works only between two, one man and one woman. If you add another woman, maybe the man can be physiologically one with each one of them at different times, but <b>the two women can never be physiologically one with each other. Hence, the husband+2wives triplet can never be completely one</b>. <br />As already the incompatibility in physiology between the two wives warns, the examples of polygyny in scripture strongly warn of the emotional incompatibilty in marriage to the same man. And so the problem of incompatability between the two wives will consequently become a key problem to the whole family, which will fail trying to “become one”. This must be a strong warning to us husbands, for we will not be able to fullfil our responsibility to lead our family in unity. Polygyny will rather destroy it and will undoubtly hurt our wives and our children and our childrens children. And we will have to give account for it.<br />a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-26943236798723539862020-09-28T04:25:21.879-07:002020-09-28T04:25:21.879-07:003) We cannot look back and apply the same standard...3) We cannot look back and apply the same standard to us, that Elohim in his mercy had for a fallen creation with “hard hearts” in the old covenant. Messiahs answer (concerning the granted divorce which Elohim hated, but allowed because of their hard hearts) was “<i>…but it was not this way from the beginning</i>”. Our Father send the redeemer, to create in us a new heart, no longer hard as stone, to renew our mind according to the mind of Messiah, to restore us back to His perfect will, in which He created us in the beginning when He made us, in Eden: “<i>Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother, and <b>shall cleave to his wife [Singular!]</b> and they shall become <b>one (echad, unified) flesh</b>.</i>" We no longer should live as a fallen creation, but we are restored – We are a NEW creation!a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-31919358360709408442020-09-28T04:23:26.015-07:002020-09-28T04:23:26.015-07:002) We are created, both husband and wife, with a d...2) We are created, both husband and wife, with a desire to be exclusively loved: <i>SoS 8:6 Set me as a seal on your heart, as a seal on your arm. For love is strong as death, jealousy is cruel as Sheol. </i>From all the examples of the resulting jealousy we can find in scripture and the world around us, how could we –if we truly love our wives– even consider taking this risk, thinking “touching this fire will not burn us”. a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-22329492354192518262020-09-28T04:22:27.803-07:002020-09-28T04:22:27.803-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-8436793507592964972020-09-28T04:22:07.210-07:002020-09-28T04:22:07.210-07:001) We husbands still fall terribly short of loving...1) We husbands still fall terribly short of loving our wifes according to our Master’s standard. We still fail the commandment to love our wives “as Messiah the Congregation”! How could we then ever think about adding another wife, which will make us even fail more in love: A husband trying to serve the one wife’s special need, will unavoidably neglect the other. Focussing on the needs of the one, he will have to draw his attention from the other. As one cannot serve two different masters equally, one cannot love two different wives equally. Adding a wife is going in the wrong direction concerning our goal of growing in love and “becoming one”. a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-48867814262345919002020-09-28T04:21:37.746-07:002020-09-28T04:21:37.746-07:00Thank you for standing up for this matter! The bre...Thank you for standing up for this matter! The break down of the family unit seems to be high up on the enemies aganda, causing the downfall of this generation, providing him easy access to the coming generation. As he worked this through Balam to destroy Israels, he seeks to break down the Elohim ordained unity of the family since then in various ways.<br /><br><br />To the many good points quoted above, I would like to add some more - to share with those that consider that way, to save them, their families, and the body of Messiah from harm.<br />a brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14842227194275181900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-57627856512887652922020-09-27T17:21:23.422-07:002020-09-27T17:21:23.422-07:00Agreed. Thank you for this article. Also, please p...Agreed. Thank you for this article. Also, please pray for us as we deal with a friend who is now in favor of and promotes polygany. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02508621983320993516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-4779507282968077492020-09-24T20:06:32.063-07:002020-09-24T20:06:32.063-07:00Thank you for this strong word of encouragement. Thank you for this strong word of encouragement. Ronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06132993689219501617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-34804372794899952462020-09-24T14:30:53.545-07:002020-09-24T14:30:53.545-07:00Well spoken.
Two things come to mind that I have ...Well spoken. <br />Two things come to mind that I have been saying lately: The adversary is always trying to separate what YHVH is bringing together and trying to bring together what YHVH desires to be separate. <br />The second thought is that the opposite of homosexuality, adultery, polygyny and ever other perversion is holiness and nothing else! We all have something we must die to. (The Flesh!!)<br />Rivkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07264150619252891314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-69493134741389052602020-09-24T09:49:15.281-07:002020-09-24T09:49:15.281-07:00amein!amein!Sandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13959838902671231781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-58803730069449877652020-09-24T09:28:58.644-07:002020-09-24T09:28:58.644-07:00You can say that again! Probably the greatest dete...You can say that again! Probably the greatest deterrent to polygyny. (-: Ephrimonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15771591803197135131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-62490700028190710692020-09-24T09:19:41.668-07:002020-09-24T09:19:41.668-07:00well my husband says'''ONE IS ENOUGH&q...well my husband says'''ONE IS ENOUGH"---I smile!Sandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13959838902671231781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-46809899722862231292020-09-24T06:41:05.296-07:002020-09-24T06:41:05.296-07:00דברים טוביםדברים טוביםGlennandAmanda Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04390333866886829381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7895366709324736946.post-110110705844485042020-09-24T05:35:04.468-07:002020-09-24T05:35:04.468-07:00Amen and amen, Rimona and Ephraim.Amen and amen, Rimona and Ephraim.Sarah Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10488814654411250358noreply@blogger.com